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I had a scheduled appointment on Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 10:00 a.m. to meet with Ja-Lih Lee, Supervising Librarian, Children’s Services, Oakland Public Library. We exchanged emails a few weeks before that and agreed that 10:00 a.m. would be a perfect time for both of us.

I found a parking space half a block away from the Main Library; a good omen. And I even had enough quarters to feed the parking meters (they always somehow seem to be hungry for more – what kind of diet is this)? I walked over to the Children’s Services Room around the corner from the Main Entrance on 14th Street, and saw that the sign indicated "Closed." No problem. I had 10 minutes to walk around and enjoy the view of our beautiful Lake Merritt in Oakland. What a breathtaking sight!

At a few minutes before 10:00 a.m., as I stood in the shade of a beautiful, old tree, someone parked a car in the employee parking lot to my left and out emerged a tall, graceful-looking Asian woman, who walked with purpose and confidence inside the just-opened doors of the Children’s Services Room. "Aha," I wondered to myself, "Is this person Ja-Lih Lee?"

I entered the large Children’s Services Room a few moments later and informed the staff librarian that I had a scheduled appointment with Ms. Lee at 10:00 a.m. in Room 6 (which adjoins the room where I was standing). The librarian went inside Room 6 for a second, came out and said, "Ms. Lee will come out to see you in a minute." And that is exactly what happened.

As soon as Ja-Lih Lee came out of her office and extended her hand in a welcoming gesture, we looked at each other and both of us laughed at the same time. "You know, I was wondering if that was you," she said, to which I replied, "And I was wondering if that was you." And thus the "yous" met (the word "yous" does not really exist but it fits somehow in this context).

Ja-Lih directed me to her office and immediately said that she has two questions to ask me. The first one was the offer of a refreshingly cold cup of water, a most welcome treat. The second question, as politely inquired as the first, was: "How do you pronounce your last name?" I pronounced "Souroujon" and thus our interview began.

The agenda was completely open-ended, a "whatever you wish to tell me" kind of dialogue, a sharing of background experience and ideas about the world of libraries, offered with spontaneity interspersed with thoughtful pauses and reflections, all within a period of close to two hours (that parking meter was getting hungry again).

Ja-Lih started her conversation by telling me that she was born and raised in Taiwan, earning her undergraduate degree in Library Science there prior to her arrival in the United States. She arrived in Chicago, Illinois, in January of 1976 where her brother-in-law was living at the time. After a short stay in Chicago, Ja-Lih drove to Rhode Island to join her husband. He had applied at the University of Illinois-Champaign and had been accepted as a student; Ja-Lih had arrived too late in the U.S. to be accepted at the same time so she had to wait another year for her acceptance at the same university. Ja-Lih’s Master’s of Science in Library and Information Science was bestowed upon her in 1978 at the University of Illinois-Champaign.

Between the years of 1978 – 1985, Ja-Lih held quite a wide range of various positions, with employers as varied as the U.S. Army and a computer company. Ja-Lih worked in a corporate business as a consultant in Washington, D.C., translating from Chinese to English and vice-versa (this was in the ‘80’s, for a period of 1-1/2 years), and that particular environment was instrumental in introducing Ja-Lih to the world of technical and business structures, a position which served her well later on in her other endeavors.

Ja-Lih enthusiastically related to me that the emerging era of Information Storage and Retrieval (now named Information Technology or "IT") and the corresponding embryo of Library Automation, perfectly coincided with her recently-acquired degree from University of Illinois-Champaign and she was very fortunate to be able to utilize her knowledge in a most practical way through her different places of employment in these new fields of learning. Ja-Lih was most grateful for the opportunities which were now all around her and she took full advantage of opening each door and entering inside a new "room" of knowledge, learning and teaching what she had learned, tentatively trying to follow the footsteps of her excellent professors at the University of Illinois-Champaign.

Ja-Lih mentioned that when she was studying for her Master’s Degree, there was one professor who was the "guru" for Information Science. His name was F. W. Lancaster (currently professor emeritus at the University of Illinois Graduate School of Library and Information Science) and when she spoke of Professor Lancaster, her obvious reaction showed in the sunshine of her face. She was privileged to have such a person as her mentor. Professor Lancaster was not a "techie" but had "forward-looking ideas" according to Ja-Lih. He was unorthodox in his thinking, encouraging his students to "evolve, to think for themselves."

One of Professor Lancaster’s "unorthodox" ideas was the creation of signage, setting aside the exact and correct method of how a library "should be" but rather concentrating on "what works." Today, our airports, especially international airports, use signage without a blink and a memory of when and where the method originated.

A most significant part of Professor Lancaster’s method was "measuring" a library’s success. For example, Ja-Lih recounted, if a patron asks the reference librarian for information, there are two ways to offer a response. 1) Produce lots of references for the patron’s benefit or 2) Analyze the question and proceed to one source and find one data (the precision method). Where is the "measure of success" in the library? The measure is in the feedback received from patrons.

As Ja-Lih spoke of Professor Lancaster, I immediately thought about the tremendous privilege some of us have in finding an outstanding teacher, one who remains with us forever. I would like to add, at this point, that an excellent librarian can function as a tremendous role-model as well. I was already beginning to get hints of Ja-Lih’s possibilities of affecting the children of Oakland through her leadership and enthusiasm in just this kind of role!

At the time that Ja-Lih was studying for her Master’s of Science in Library and Information Science, the University of Illinois-Champaign’s School was divided into three sections: 1) Special Libraries (companies, corporate, research, R&D), 2) Academic and 3) Public. Today, the School of Library Sciences is divided into academic, public and school (which requires a teaching credential).

After escorting me through a delightful "tour" of the Library and Information Science School, Ja-Lih now entered a different aspect of her life, the one "after University" life which many of us encounter.

Together with her husband, Ja-Lih came to live in San Jose, California in 1987 (her husband found a job in that rapidly-growing city) and eventually the couple was blessed with the birth of a son and daughter.

Between the period of 1987-1996, Ja-Lih, together with her husband, raised their two children. Ja-Lih taught Chinese language in San Jose and then, one day, she found out about the American Booksellers’ Association and decided to participate in a one week conference in Denver, Colorado, sponsored by this Association, to learn the "inside story of how to start a bookstore – the financing, investing, control, marketing – merchandise, etc. After completing the conference, Ja-Lih launched her new venture – a Children’s Bookstore, "Jolly Land," in Cupertino, which she owned for four years.

As Ja-Lih worked at her bookstore, she developed a more extensive interest in children’s libraries and literature, culminating in a "detour" as a School Librarian, a position which she held for two years (K-6). This position was essentially an "on-the-job training," an excellent path toward discovering the significance of outreach to both teachers and parents. Ja-Lih indicated that the outreach process showed her how to critique and select books which would be suitable for the community which she was serving, a critical component of a good library system.

Professionally, Ja-Lih was interested to move into the field of teaching. She took a part-time position in San Jose’s Public Library, working in the Young Adult Section (patrons between the ages of 20-28 years of age). Ja-Lih was planning to start her Teacher’s Credential at the same time but the job at the Library took up all of her attention and she was unable to proceed with her teaching plans. It was at that point in her life that Ja-Lih decided to remain with the Public Library System and concentrate on her expertise in the field of outreach (senior services, young adults, etc.).

In 1995, Ja-Lih was appointed as a full-time Outreach Librarian in the San Jose System (at that time, the Library System had a separate Outreach Department) and Ja-Lih remained in the position until 2002, when she was appointed Manager of the Department.

What constituted "Outreach" in San Jose?

1) The San Jose Library had a visible presence by setting up a booth with pamphlets at each of the myriad festivals and fairs offered by the City.

2) System-wide Programs of the Library. For example, there was a program called "Books for Little Hands." Each bag, containing 20 books, was distributed to day-care and home-care providers. Many of these providers lacked the training in choosing appropriate children’s books. The Library Foundation stepped in and contributed seed money for the Program, paying for all the books and bags. There are 17 Libraries in the System. The communities which the libraries served were told that the day-care and home-care providers of their community can get a special library card which entitles them to a "bag" of 20 books, to be returned within a month, and a new "bag" would then be given to them once more.

The success of the "Books for Little Hands" extended to outside grants, beyond the initial seed money given by the Library Foundation. In addition, the Program initiated Parents/Teacher Training and offered theme book suggestions for pre-school learning (ex. "Seasons" with appropriate props).

Ja-Lih said that in 1995, the City of San Jose started to undergo a transformation. Downsized budgets became a reality. This change naturally affected the San Jose Public Library System as well and presented new challenges to its administrative and library staff-persons. What happened next is worth noting.

The San Jose Public Library’s Librarians started to pay attention to the successes of giant bookstores, such as Barnes & Noble, and think about and learn how to create similar successes in libraries which were now unable to function as effectively as they had been in the past due to limited resources and staffing.

In 1997, the San Jose Public Library created its visionary Master Plan which innovatively re-invented public library service to meet the needs of the new century.

In practical terms, however, as funding decreased, population changed and the Internet entered into the world of learning in a revolutionary way, the Master Plan for Libraries and its expansion of existing buildings was unable to fulfill its dream.

What did the librarians learn? To become more creative and develop techniques to deliver services.

Ja-Lih interjected at this point to say that in 1999, she became Manager of the Outreach Unit and the branch manager of the Calabazas Library in 2001, a position she held until 2002. Both positions took Ja-Lih through an aggressive public library outreach planning and the actual implementation of what is currently called "The Innovative Library Service Module."

Now we turn to a leap from life in San Jose to Oakland today. How did this occur, I asked? Ja-Lih explained that while attending the 2001 American Library Association’s annual conference in San Francisco, she approached the Oakland Public Library’s information table and saw a position for Supervising Librarian, Children’s Services. Ja-Lih decided to submit her resume. A year later, Ja-Lih was approached by Director Carmen Martinez and Administrative Librarian Leslie Rodd and asked if she would entertain the thought of coordinating the Oakland Public Library’s Children’s Services. Ja-Lih "saw this as an opportunity" and, combined with her extensive work at the San Jose Public Library, decided to apply, was accepted and started her new "life" in October 2002 – as a daily commuter from San Jose (!) to Oakland to serve the needs of this community.

What are some of Ja-Lih’s observations a year after she started her new position in Oakland? First of all, Ja-Lih sees a very dedicated group of Children’s Librarians throughout the whole District – one at each of the Public Library’s branches! Secondly, Ja-Lih observes that there is a tight, strong team of Children’s Librarians who recognize the challenges of their communities, armed with a sound dedication and vision to confront these opportunities.

What is Ja-Lih’s Vision for Children’s Services within the Oakland Public Library System?

To promote and advocate Children’s Libraries. How? Through outreach to parents, teachers, day-care and home-care providers. An example: to educate providers and children how to use the library system AND the use of the Internet within the confines of the Library.

To create a stronger role and place for the Library relating to the complex issue of Early Literacy and to acknowledge the need for further help for parents and teachers in assisting children from early childhood into young adulthood.

The need for System-wide Public Library outreach programs to give support and confidence to providers and the necessary tools to help parents, teachers, etc.

An emphasis on the pivotal role of the Oakland community and its close relationship within the Public Library, where the latter can offer experience, support and building of confidence in those who provide guidance to the children of this widely-diverse city.

Ja-Lih said that there is always a time factor to be considered, of course, and that there is no need to be frightened if something does not work. The value of advocating Libraries and the vision of what it can do for the community should be the most important factor – the encouragement, the utilization of skills, the dedication – these are the issues at hand.

From the broad art-strokes of vision, we turn to the "real world" and the implications for the future.

Ja-Lih sees the biggest challenge today in Libraries is how to use limited resources and still maintain a high standard level of service, working within a diminished and increasingly diminishing budget. This test is an ongoing process and poses some exciting opportunities.

A personal example. In March 2003, Ja-Lih accepted an additional responsibility. She is now also the Manager of the Children’s Room at the Oakland Main Library. Many hats!!

The Children’s Services Office is adjacent to the Children’s Room at Oakland’s Main Public Library. In the past, there had always been a collaboration between the two entities, but the formal structure was not always there. Now, there is an official, methodical integration of staff talents and times.

The Children’s Services Office (Room 6) houses the following staff persons:

Ja-Lih Lee, Supervising Librarian, Children’s Services Office

Vivian Yee, Children’s Collection Specialist

Tamar Kirschman, PASS! Program Coordinator and staff

Sarah Hodgson, Program Coordinator of Books for Wider Horizon Program and staff

Children’s Room staff persons

Nina Lindsay, Children’s Librarian

Shani Leonards, Children’s Librarian

Lisa Fung, Library Assistant

Connie Fundenberg, Library Assistant

Several part-time Library Aides

What has developed out of necessity (decrease in budget) is the creation of a team, all working for the same purpose and ideal. Ja-Lih stressed that each and every staff person is an important member of this team; it supports the Children’s Room service to the public and also gives its support to the system-wide children’s programming.

And what would Ja-Lih like to ask the Friends of the Oakland Public Library to contribute toward the Children’s Services? Aha! Ms. Lee broadly smiled when asked that question.

The Bookmark, FOPL’s landmark bookstore at 721 Washington Street, Oakland, is the first item which came to mind. Apparently the Library sends some of its "best condition" used books to The Bookmark from all the branches and the Children’s Services is no exception to this practice. Ja-Lih indicated that "we weed our collection" before sending it to The Bookmark but "some ‘discards’" are truly discarded rather than being sent to schools and/or the bookstore. Ja-Lih suggests possibly including some of the "discards" at The Bookmark Bookstore itself as well as selling these books, at reduced prices, at the branch libraries’ book-sales. By including "discards," satisfied readers might enjoy taking the books home and later on discarding the not-so-favorites ones at their own leisure.

Ja-Lih proceeded to share with me some of her comments about present programs and future possibilities for the Oakland Public Library’s Children’s Services.

Ja-Lih spoke with enthusiasm about the Summer Reading Games, offered by the Library and supported by FOPL. Each year, Children’s Librarians design a program for the summer break to encourage children to spend part of their time reading while they are away from their regular school-year activities. These Librarians insist on giving books as finishers’ prizes. The reality is, of course, that book costs are getting higher and the number of children finishing the Summer Reading Games is thankfully increasing by the year.

Ja-Lih indicated that she looks forward to many more years of collaboration with FOPL in its continuance of support of the Summer Reading Games. Ja-Lih emphasized the importance of measuring the success of this Program and also taking advantage of lessons learned in the process. Only then can hopes for improvement and active participation be both encouraged and encouraging.

As a concrete example of its success, this past Summer saw more than 8600 children sign up for the Summer Reading Games and almost 80% of them reached the goal of reading a minimum of 8 hours or more. FOPL’s continued support of the much-heralded and much-appreciated Summer Reading Games can truly make a difference!

Here are some Oakland Public Library’s vital statistics provided by Ja-Lih for the benefit of FOPL members and members of the community. I find these 2002-2003 figures quite impressive. Can we improve? Why not? Meanwhile, please read on for the details.

Oakland Public Library provided 1024 pre-school children’s programs and 1255 school-age children’s programs throughout all of OPL’s libraries, including the Main Children’s Room.

57,158 children and adults attended Library programs which were held mostly in the libraries themselves and some were also offered at school sites.

The Partners to Achieve School Success (PASS) Program is a comprehensive after-school program that incorporates homework help, library skills training, and enrichment activities. 650 children signed up for the Program and "drop-ins" regularly appeared at all sites.

The PASS! after-school and teen mentoring program was offered at 8 sites this year. Participants met four days a week for three hours after school.

"Books for Wider Horizons," a successful outreach program, trained 29 volunteer story-readers and provided regular story-time at 22 Head Start sites in Oakland. Ja-Lih raises the question of whether FOPL would be interested in establishing a stronger outreach involvement in the Oakland community with these programs, including the training of volunteers to help children with their reading.

I now present an updated and most positive footnote to all of the above activities.

First of all, of course, by now we are all beaming with justified pride and joy at the success of the passing of Measure Q. Ja-Lih asked me to relay to the FOPL membership that everyone at the Oakland Public Library is "thrilled that Measure Q received such support from the community, and of course, from our Friends." I join Ja-Lih is in these well-deserved words of congratulations.

A most exciting, much-anticipated and necessary physical renovation of the Children’s Room will be taking place mid-year. Below is Ja-Lih’s report on this activity which she has kindly supplied for the benefit and interest of FOPL members.

The Background of the Children’s Room renovation.

Originally, the Children’s Room renovation was part of the Main Library renovation. When the Main Librarian renovation plan was postponed, the Library Administration decided to continue with the renovation of the Children’s Room due to some realistic needs such as torn carpets, broken furniture, bad lighting, etc.

With the full support of Carmen Martinez, Director of the Oakland Public Library and Leslie Rodd, Administrative Librarian for Programming, plus fundraising efforts by the Library Foundation, the administrative staff of the Children’s Services was eventually able to have a floor plan that not only aimed at solving some of the problems for the room due to its age, but also included some designs that hope to bring the Children’s Room into 21st century.

The administrative staff took the approach of analyzing patron needs and problem solving, accepting, of course, the fact of limitation of space.. Therefore, the final floor plan did not drastically change the layout of the material. However, some subtle changes to the appearance of the room will hopefully make the Children’s Room more friendly for OPL’s customers and become more efficient for the staff as a whole.

The Children’s Room renovation

According to Ja-Lih, there will not be a drastic change in the general appearance. But the renovation does require that the staff re-think how business is conducted on a daily basis by everyone.

One of the major changes will require the tearing down of the wall that surrounds the staff break- room behind the circulation desk and convert that space into the "pre-teen/tween popular browsing" area. This newly-altered area will be called "THE SPOT!"

The current space that now holds the water fountain and the copy machine will be expanded to display all paperback series. Apparently this collection attracts the most children and the additional space will provide the readers with a comfortable area to sit on the floor and read. This same corner will also become a programming area.

Looking further into the future, Ja-Lih hopes that one day, the Children’s Services will be able to have their own, separate programming room. All the windows will be re-done so that there will be window seats. Not only does this make the place more friendly but it also provides extra seating, something which is desperately needed.

Part of the renovation plans include six public access computers for children; now there are only three. There will still be one additional computer for the public catalogue.

The Service Desk will be divided into two: one portion will be for Reference while the other one will be for Circulation. Ja-Lih commented that customers will no longer come into the Library and be faced with an "institutionally-looking service counter. "

A major component of the renovation process is crucial to report. According to Ja-Lih, "everyone working in the Children’s Room was invited to give ideas and feedback. The ‘change’ will not stop when the construction completes. We have a team that is getting used to continuously evaluate what we do and how we do it. " Solid team-work at play here!

Temporary move during construction.

During construction and renovation at the present location, the Children’s Room will be temporarily moved to the West Auditorium, hopefully with a minimum of interruption to services being provided to the public (possibly two weeks at the most). Construction is scheduled to begin in mid-year. The entire project will take about 2-3 months (no definite date as yet). A promising adventure!

At the conclusion of our interview on October 14, 2003, Ja-Lih informed me that she welcomes the opportunity to share some of her expertise in discussing various possibilities in community involvement and collaboration between the Oakland Public Library and the services it could provide to Oakland.

Ja-Lih is most assuredly a strong advocate of the Library System, a proponent of creative team-thinking and accepting temporary obstacles as detours toward a stronger goal. Each ladder of her personal success was achieved through a "why not try this?" rather than a different approach, "It’s comfortable in this status quo." No, there is a sense of a visionary leader in Ja-Lih and Oakland is most fortunate to have her as its Children’s Services Supervising Librarian.

Teeming with opportunities in the 21st century – go forward, Oakland!

Written by Sophie Fynland Souroujon

Member, FOPL Board of Directors


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